Music piracy

Category: Let's talk

Post 1 by Miss Gorgeous (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 14:39:22

What is your opinion about music piracy? Do you agree with downloading music or do you buy the cd strait from the store or do you pay for your downloads online or you just want free downloads all the time? Feel free to post in on your opinions.

Post 2 by ellectra (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 14:48:15

I'm a shameless downloader. However, if CDs weren't nearly so expensive, I'd probably buy more than I do.

Post 3 by Reads_Dots (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 14:51:39

I download music for free, but I wouldn't object to paying for unlimited mp3 access. I haven't bought a CD in ages. Digital music is the way of the future, and that's the way I'm going, but I have no problem with supporting the artists if they deserve it. Some songs I like but I'd never buy the album, so I have no problem with downloading them for free.

Post 4 by CrazyTrain (Generic Zoner) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 16:36:08

I download a few songs from a group and if I like what I hear I'll buy the CD.

Post 5 by Miss Gorgeous (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 19:22:56

I download once in awhile and I still buy some cd’s from the latest artist. Okay I enjoy downloading before I used to download more than 40 songs a day. But that was last summer. Now I started to buy cd’s but I still download.

Post 6 by louiano (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 21:17:17

ok. so my connection was stupid and the poost didn't go through. I do some downloading, but not that much now since I just like to listen to broadcasts if i like a song too much but if its just one of them, I would download it, but i never burn my downloaded music to cd's but i htink i should for back up purposes... and actually if I like the whole or most of the song i would buy the cd.

Post 7 by Wraith (Prince of Chaos) on Wednesday, 03-Aug-2005 23:22:16

LoL. I'm no where that avid of a music downloader. I do buy the CD's I download, however. If I like the music I download, I buy the CD. If I don't like it: It go byebye... delete.

Post 8 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 04-Aug-2005 0:30:31

Well, I think the amount of music downloaded is partly due to the fact that thereis no comprehensive, secure and user friendly wqy of downloading music legally. This cobined wit the new technology that is making the CD alost useless as a medium causes people to look tothe easiest soltion to get the music that they want and, so far, the easiest solutio has proven to be illegal downloading.
I tried, as an example, to access the Itunes store some weeks ago, firstly it was so full of pop up windows and flash movies and advertizing that it was basically impossible to even find the music downloadds themselves and they did nothave half of the music that I wanted. I went to BuyMusic.com to try and download from them. I downloaded 4 tracks (or rather paid for 4 tracks) I managed to download 2, 2 somehow got stuck and I got a server error meaning they were not even properly uploaded, I was charged for 4 songs and I had to go and download the licenses separately (Windows Media Format) and after that it is basically impossible to play .wma files on most secure devices and even if you can there's only a limited number of times you can copy or burn the legal music you download .. an after all that inconvenience you would think that the tracks would be considerably cheaper than the CD itself if only because the distribution and packaging cost is virtually non existent on online music, as it turns out if you buy all the tracks of an album you may end up paying more than you would for a CD. We live in the day and age of customer demand and instant gratification, when you talk about a song in the living room you want to hear it, now, not order a CD and get it weeks later, therefore availibility and ease of use are keys to the music enjoyment of today and quite frankly neither seem to be a priority for online distributors of digitized music. This will have to change before illegal downloading can be curbed because right now people just don't have a vihable alternative to p2p network, bit torrents or dc++ where you can find basically anything you want to find regarldss of artist's nationality, record labeor distributor and that's how muic download sites should be. I'm not saying I encourage illegal downloading and I try to buy all cds that I really like but to me it's a justification for illegal downloading.
cheers
-B

Post 9 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 04-Aug-2005 13:00:20

I'm all for downloading and when I hear these millionaire stars whinging about losing X amount of millions through Downloading, it makes me sick, their self pitying greed is obscene.

Post 10 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Thursday, 04-Aug-2005 13:38:28

Well, like U2's Bono said, he's not so worried about him losing much money or the band but about the little/newcomer artist that is on the brink of giving up after putting countless hours into writing and rehearsing and actually does quite well but people get their music without supporting them so they give up. That's the group that could be hit the worst by downloading. After all the music biz is very strange really either you are poor as a church mouse or you hit it big and really make a lot of money. Some justly some unjutly but all of them put a lot of work into what they do .. some, granted, work on their body and everything else but the musical abilities but that, too, is work and if you are successful at what you do you deserve the money you get, that's how I feel anyways.
cheers
-B

Post 11 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Thursday, 04-Aug-2005 19:29:18

Hm, I mean, who of us has not burned a CD yet? and ... I mean, eve nthough it is illegal, most of the people like and do it. And it is a very cheap way to get music. So ... yeah, as hard as it sounds, I do not care about if it is illegal or not.

Post 12 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 9:05:55

I have burned 5 in one afternoon and thoroughly enjoyed the whole experience...

Post 13 by Deja Vu (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 10:48:38

in fact I'm against the music Piracy, but, as it was said cd fees are too much, so I have to download most of the songs I like. for instance, I am a fond of Evanescence, but I couldn't afford their last albume, it was $ 29.95 and, I can understand the music piracy in the countries where income is quite low. but really, I haven't heard of that in usa people wants to download songs instead of buying. hey I don't blame you. just that's the same I do

Post 14 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 10:57:20

It costs 5 British pennies to make 1 cd..although the cost of all be it old cds is far cheaper now, the fact remains that they are dispicably expensive...HMV and Virgin have constant cut price sales here to shift a skip load of discs that people cannot afford..and the suing of several people for stealing MP3's from the net was scandalous...the music industry is run by greed!...

Post 15 by Reads_Dots (Account disabled) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 14:43:15

Goblin, I agree with you. As I said before, the way of the future is digital music, and artists have to adapt or they won't make it in the business.

Post 16 by Deja Vu (Veteran Zoner) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 15:46:56

but I say right now, recently I have read in a news paper, "digital music sector will be secured? no" because, music companies tries to find a way for avoiding piracy, for this they find out something, but now it is under trial, in music cds, like autorun, they place a mini program and the cd is opened by itself when it is placed in a cd-rom or cd-player, and the file types aren't allowed to be opened in another program else than the program in the cd.
yes, the end of our free music plesure is about to end, so enjoy as much as you can.

Post 17 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 17:30:16

I stick to my point. It is the future and it is cheaper. And ... well, besides, you do not have to move and get to the record sho, hehehe.

Post 18 by Juliet (move over school!) on Friday, 05-Aug-2005 20:57:38

I do a little of both. I enjoy downloading music just about as much as most people on here, and make my own CD's, but if I can't find certain things I'm looking like albums I've discovered are out of print, I either buy them from towerrecords, or go there, find that they don't carry them anymore, and find that I'm pretty much just shit out of luck.
And that's happened to me on several occasions, but the majority of the time I've been able to find what I'm looking for one way or another. But my oppinion is, and always has been, downloading music really isn't that different from taping the same songs off the radio, and the majority of the time, the sound quality is a lot better.

Post 19 by Deja Vu (Veteran Zoner) on Saturday, 06-Aug-2005 3:58:00

As always, I think that if someone can afford a cd, he or she should buy it, if we can't afford we have a reasonable reason.

Post 20 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Saturday, 06-Aug-2005 9:22:42

Chessbridge I certainly hope not and the sooner the geeks can find a way around this devious move, the better...

Post 21 by melodica (Account disabled) on Saturday, 06-Aug-2005 15:12:16

I like being able to download free and sometimes burn CDs if I can find a good mix. I view it like taping off the radio. I mean, why would they sell blank tapes and blank CDs if they didn't want you copying music? I download, but then if the mp3 quality is crappy but the song is good, I'll go out and buy the CD and re-encode the mp3 on the comp with CDex.

Post 22 by DrunkenMonkey (Account disabled) on Saturday, 06-Aug-2005 21:19:27

The people who are trying to make special autorun CDs nowadays are just wasting their time... You could easily get around this barrier by using a program such as Total Recorder from highcriteria.com. For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, Total Recorder is a piece of software that captures any audio coming in through your sound card. You can find a review of it on main menu if you're interested. I purchased it and have found it handy for recording copy-protected CDS and internet broadcasts onto my computer. You can also use it to record audio through your computer's microphone if you'd like.

Chet

Post 23 by Deja Vu (Veteran Zoner) on Sunday, 07-Aug-2005 5:34:39

yes friends, but if I had a music company certainly I would try to prevent piracy, and I could give up half of my welth in that way. because, if piracy is prevented, their gain will be much more than their loss.

Post 24 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 08-Aug-2005 10:03:21

I don't think there's anything wtrong with downloading for free. Music should be shared. If newcommers had other jobs, then they wouldn't have to rely entirely on their music. As for all these rich people in the industry, well they should have no problem what so ever as they're rich enough already. Maybe the problem with poorer musicians extends further than the downloads issue. What about the promotion of their music, and the amount of attention they get? Surely these are eaqually responsible for their lack of money.

Post 25 by Godzilla-On-Toast (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Tuesday, 09-Aug-2005 5:52:31

I do some of both, although most of my downloading these days are podcasts and from ftp sites that friends have set up. Most of my downloads are not current hit music and probably waht I download are big sellers anyhow. I still like to buy CDs as often as I can, just because I'm a relic and a throwback. I don't want to depend on my computer for my entire music collection, because if my hard drive were to die, there goes everything.